If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. I dont believe some of the Catholic doctrine is true, but all have belief in things they believe and unbelief in things they dont believe. If you attend a church each Sunday with a team of men that keeps track of attendence each Sunday In our congregation, we do not do that. She told her son Kenneth, who was 16, he had to start attending the academy and the church with her. (Psalm 12:6-7; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Peter 1:20-21), Each local church is an independent body accountable to the Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week (Sunday mornings, Sunday evenings, and Wednesday evenings for Bible studies which I will assume) I cant agree with this, you must attend at least one. We believe that all the saved should live in such a manner as not to bring reproach upon their Savior and Lord; and, that separation from all religius apostasy, all worldly and sinful pleasures, practices and associations is commanded of God (II Timothy 3:1-5; Romans 12:1, 2, 14:13; I John 2:15-17; II John 9-11; II Corinthians 6:14-7:1). 17. N/A 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? Please get away from the IFB as far as you can, as fast as you can. While I am not against crucifixes but using them in public worship is idolatry because the bible forbids idols. (2 Timothy 2:15), We believe the first day of the week is the Lords Day. You can be a better Christian IF you repent of your sins and turn away from them and if you can grow spiritually. Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. Yes, because he wants to spend a little time with his child. 32. 3 And why worry about a speck in your friends eye when you have a log in your own? We will never attain that on this side. I am also against body piercings as well. God values his word, even above his own name, and when you or I meet God, what we think means nothing to God, unless it lines up with His Word. Im not IFB but I still believe in tithes and offerings. Fellowship, guidance, and encouragement of the local church family are essential for believers to maintain an unwavering testimony and a meaningful life of service. Three words vacation bible school *shiver*. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. If you are really interested in finding out about my poor experiences with the IFB please read the website rather than make assumptions. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. You hurt the cause of Christ regardless your intentions and you should be ashamed of yourself, especially if you think this is the proper way to obey the two commandments the Lord Jesus said were the most important. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). I wish you had broken up your last paragraph into multiple paragraph everything runs together. There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. 36. Romans 5:8 5. That makes no sense. [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. I came to get a few laughs but it sounds like you were really hurt by some church growing up. But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter and unhappy so I honestly feel badly for you. What an extensive list. 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. Mind you all this was before I repented and ask God for forgiveness. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. The members were so sweet to us. His son a child murderer. How will you escape the judgment of hell? If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with the Lord with good performance You cant make up for sins nor can salvation be earned. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: As God's priests, we can study His Word, pray for our needs, intercede for others, offer worship, and serve in His work. Please read this article for more information: https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense [sic] of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be.. Lots of people at the church stoped what they were doing to attend. N/A Its not an Old Testament Law vs New Testament issue. I dont post this to to attack you, nor defend Dave, rather to simply point out that perhaps both are not setting the best of examples? If you consider it worldly and almost frightening if someone brings a different version of the Bible to church, and wonder what your Pastor would say if he knew, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. It was fun to read down through comments and feel a little gratified that not everyone was chuckling to themselves againwhy?? For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in peoples faces. OMG! Mind your own business. I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be. Forget the past and move on to do those things that shine light to the lost, edify the saints, and glorify God. If you look down on people who are divorce That is absolutely wrong. 4. Most pastors skip virtue, usually because they just dont know any better. [1], New IFB churches have caused controversy on several occasions, because of their opposition to homosexuality. The IFB ostracizes people when they leave. We had no money.. He wasnt saying that spanking is right or wrong, but that definitely extreme discipline and beating kids is not what the Bible teaches. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? Such as??? [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. Please read the rest of the website and my story rather than just judge me. If you believe that all Catholics are going to hell, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 35. I agree that God can use anything and anyone to reach people, but I can guarantee that the IFB has ulterior motives. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. The only sin that is not forgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, became man, without ceasing to be God, having been conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, in order that He might reveal God and redeem sinful men (John 1:1-2, 14; Luke 1:35; Isaiah 9:6; 7:14; Philippians 2:5-8; Galatians 4:4-5). 54. or any combination of the above isnt really saved because of that/those behavior(s), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 52. Then you have churches with no standards . We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. N/A I can use scripture to instruct me how to forgive others and God told me that it is profitable. The key is that youre not suppose to JUST sit under the teaching/preaching of anyone without reading the Bible, seeking wisdom from God, and fellow shipping with people who are interested in drawing closer to God. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. I dont think its as bad as all this, but thats my 2 cents and maybe Im still on the inside.. The preachers who I knew as a teenager all had real degrees in theology from acredited universities. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects. If you went to a church camp where mixed bathing wasnt allowed and every evening there was a 3 hour sermon, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. We believe in the bodily resurrection of all men, the saved to eternal life, and the unsaved to judgment and everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46; John 5:28, 29, 11:25-26; Revelation 20:5-6, 12-13). God cant forgive you if Jesus didnt save you. The two are completely unrelated. Happily a brainwashed Bible-folk for about 28 years with more peace in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and a firm foundation of absolute truth to stand on (yes, thats the KV, haha!). The IFB are Pharisees of our day. Oh yes, and he forgot the most important, essential factorrelated to KJV reliancevirtual ignorance of and illiteracy in biblical Hebrew and Greek!!!!!!!! Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up But I still think that every Christian should spend some time in an IFB church. If you want a discussion ask for one. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 31. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin Thats not true. No member shall Its pure manipulation. Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. Its method of operation is subversive. The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. Should I choose not to forgive after Christ has already died for him? Or preferring the KJV? If you laugh (snicker, sneer, roll your eyes, etc.) There are a couple places but, they're all pretty much much secular and worldly. So spontaneous but like it was planned. For which is more importantthe gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? That may mean dressing appropriately and not dis honoring your body because its a holy temple. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. My mother doesnt wear fancy earrings. Mental health issues are just another health issue people have. If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. Yes, we have strife and faults and hypocrites. 26. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image and is mindful of him, and in that Christ died for man; therefore every individual possesses dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love. If you believe that doing, saying, thinking, etc. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. You might be an IFB if Your child has went to church there 3x a week, his whole life, but when he leaves the church, your to have nothing to do with them. 29 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. If they are saved , I dare say they regret the day they walked into the very church you enjoy making fun of. We believe that salvation is by grace plus nothing minus nothing. If your church allows no outside group of singers to perform at your church for fear that not all of their individual theologies line up with the churchs you might be an independent fundamental Baptist. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. I prefer Kjv! (John 3:36; Romans 14:4-12;2 Corinthians 4:2; Titus 1:9), Local church membership is restricted to individuals who give a believable testimony of personal faith in Christ and have publicly identified with Him in believer's baptism. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. Marriage for two people that want to make a life together is biblical. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). I hope whatever poor experience you had hasnt taken you away from the faith. God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? 7. Its the inspired word of God. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. I dont have a boarden to preform any religious works. This is assuming that the parable of the prodigal son is some kind of instruction on how to deal with a troubled child Pastor and his wife did pay for the reception, photography, and shower. I dont know your past, but I know mine and it aint righteous. Independent Fundamental Baptists are one of the most legalistic Christian groups/. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. I had no idea that I, as an IFB, might be guilty of these things. Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. Believing that going to the movies is sinful but not renting them or watching them on TV I dont see anything wrong about going to the movies because I went to the movies years ago. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. Thanks for being thankful for the grace God has giving us.